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Chris and Bar1, please read. Concerns the comic

Postby Aticston » Thu Dec 06, 2012 4:04 am

Ok, I dunno if you guys noticed, I've not posted on these forums in months and months now, the reason being is this.

I personally feel with some of the "Numbers" you guys have posted, you guys gutted whatever possible "working lore" this comic had outright

Back when I believed this comic where werewolves were like 1 out of every 50,000-100,000 people, I was like "Cool, I can suspend disbelief enough for this"

But -ONE IN TEN?!-

I still can't wrap my mind around this, I can't even comprehend how this could be taken as serious "Comic logic" unless both of you have such disdain for your fellow man you think them all to be utter retards.

One in ten, I still can't believe you came up with this number. One in freaking ten. I can't begin to tell you how much this wouldn't work out period, and all the situations that would come up from that many were's around normal people. You asked me to suspend disbelief enough to swallow such an absurd number and I just can't do it.

I can spend all day long talking about how this wouldn't work. Norm gets in a fistfight with a were, bloodies were's nose, wipes his hand across his eyes, WHOOPS were. Guy on the street see's a were human get shot, runs over to do first aid, gets were's blood all over him, accidentally gets contaminated, now he's a were. A human emergency worker works on a car crash a were was involved in, accidently cross contaminates himself with the were's blood left at the accident, whoops, now he's a were. And on. And on, and on, and on. I could describe -ENDLESS- scenarios for this

So at the beginning of august, I quietly left. I regarded said comic as now a TnA comic. But now there's even a problem with that too

There hasn't been TnA Since July 11th. Five months. At that, the last time there was graphic sex in this comic was, I shit you not, September 14th 2011.

So its a porn comic we can't take seriously for its story with no porn in it. Do you not see the problem with this?

Fix it. Fix -SOMETHING- about this comic. Fix the lore, or actually put the porn back into it, cause now whenever I see somebody talk about this comic they are -LAUGHING- at it, and I'm starting to join in myself.
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Postby bar1scorpio » Thu Dec 06, 2012 1:11 pm

Wtf? One in ten? Where's that mentioned? It's roughly 1 in 1,000. Giving a community like Pete's suburb a population of 20+ weres. I think you might be confusing the 1 in 10 for the population of werewolves to other zoanthrope types.

There is sexcoming up. In fact, much of the back end of this book will be disproportionately leaning this way. It's just with PitW, the Books are plotted out to build up- literal rising action to climax.
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Postby Ganthan » Thu Dec 06, 2012 5:22 pm

I used to be bothered about the few and far between sex scenes as well, but I'm starting to be okay with it when you consider just how much time it can take to get the story and exposition knocked out. Sex scenes, while definitely fun and appropriate to the context of the comic, don't really add much storywise. The story's been going since 2005 I think, and the faster Kris can get it out the sooner he can compile the books so he can start selling them.

Also consider that Kris is trying to keep PITW split up into the adult and general audience versions. Think of how difficult it already is for Kris and Ben to get updates out every week. Having to do two seperately written and drawn up pages per week for the gen/adult split just makes it harder.
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Postby bar1scorpio » Thu Dec 06, 2012 5:50 pm

As for that, it won't matter with the line art. Most of that I do elsewhere, away from my computer. But the book 2 work is still not progressing anywhere near the rate it needs to. My time is now divided very awkwardly, and I'm really lethargic at home. Monday was a great example of me not wanting to do anything with the restof my day, after getting up extra early for a much-needed overtime shift.
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Postby OmniWrench8000 » Thu Dec 06, 2012 7:13 pm

I'm not bothered by the amount of sex scenes, or lack thereof. I find the overall story quite engaging anyway.

As far as how he came up with 1 in 10 people are werewolves, it sounds like to me he didn't quite read the story close enough.
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Postby Ganthan » Thu Dec 06, 2012 8:41 pm

I hope you'll have a change of heart and stick around, Aticson. Sure, the smut levels (especially lately) have been pretty low for an adult comic but it's great that Kris is always right here to answer any questions we have. I personally am eager to see how the story plays out.

Besides, we could use more chatters around here. These forums are starting to get a little boring.
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Postby Happygun » Thu Dec 06, 2012 9:53 pm

Yeah, it seems like only a couple people - myself, Gathan, Kris, Bar1, and a few others are regularly posting here.

What about the adult-only forums? I never bothered to add those to my account. How are they doing?
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Postby Kris@WLP » Thu Dec 06, 2012 10:02 pm

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Postby bar1scorpio » Thu Dec 06, 2012 10:03 pm

The rest of the forims, save the My Little Pony thread, are all but dead. And have always been.
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Postby Happygun » Fri Dec 07, 2012 2:41 am

This makes me sad. :(
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Postby Aticston » Fri Dec 07, 2012 7:18 am

1 in a 1000 is still impossibly high statistically speaking

I mean, does there -HAVE- to be were's in every populated area? Like, have 10+ cities with no were population, and then you find one city with a small were population.

That still includes stuff like I said prior, all the various things that happen day to day which could cause cross contamination. I mean, has Sherrif Con, or any other were police officer -NEVER- been shot or stabbed? Plenty of blood spilled there. The number one police injury is physically restraining another person, number two is -STABBINGS- from a object, both carry easy cross contamination risks, which is why officers today after a fight with a subject must immediately take off their clothes, wash themselves down with alcohol including wounds, and they do the same with the subjects who resisted the cops in the first place, they wash them down with alcohol and anti-biotics to prevent cross contamination.

I remember seeing 1 in 10 posted before, but even at that, 1 in 1000 is still incredibly too high, given on average that in a population of a city the size of a million there is more then 30K injuries a day that causes bloodletting of some kind. Hell you got Noah being a -FOOTBALL PLAYER-, the number one physical injuries related sport in the world, where blood is spilled everywhere repeatedly. Don't you think this would cause problems? Fingernails digging into Noah's exposed body and drawing blood, and cross contamination happening? Or hell Noah getting hit incredibly hard and doing what is known as "Teeth clatter" where the mouth closes so violently in a hit the teeth smash together with such force the gum lines rupture and forcibly ejects blood into the mouth in great uncontrollable gushes, which ends up flying everywhere as spittle into other players faces, many, many, many times cross contamination has happened this way.

Peter (Or another were) on his skateboard with his friends, which he falls off and bashes his head on the ground and goes unconscious. His friends run over to help, and accidentally cross contaminate themselves, cause when have you known a -KID- to have proper first aid training? Peter ramming into that pile of trash after being thrown off the back of a speeding truck, you don't think some of his blood ended up on that debris? What happens to the garbage man if he accidentally cross contaminates?

1 in 50,000 to me is just barely believable, even then like I said statistically speaking the chances of cross contamination is very high. 1 in 100,000 is even better, it puts down the number of incidents of the possibility of a were exposing contaminated blood to the population at large to 109.5 possible cross contamination to the regular public per year per a population of of a city of a million, vs if it was 1 in a 1000 in which you would have 10950 possible cross contamination per year for a population of a million.

1 in a 1000 is just too small, even comic logic speaking you can't disbelieve the numbers enough. Hell, twilight has the numbers of Werewolves at one in every three MILLION, vampires number 1 in 10-15 million, and we know how awful those books are.
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Postby Kris@WLP » Fri Dec 07, 2012 4:38 pm

WCBBMLLC stands for, "Whine, Cry, Bitch, Bellyache & Moan, L.L.C."

It seemed like a good idea at the time.
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Postby Ganthan » Sat Dec 08, 2012 8:15 pm

Con fought a werewolf hunter and lived? It probably goes without saying that he was forced to dispose of the zealot, correct?
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Postby Kaeto » Sun Dec 09, 2012 10:28 pm

I think the hunter might have been the elder Stebbins.
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Postby Ganthan » Sun Dec 09, 2012 11:27 pm

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Postby Aticston » Wed Dec 19, 2012 11:49 am

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Postby bar1scorpio » Wed Dec 19, 2012 1:46 pm

I do care about the product, but it just feels harder to dedicate the time to it that I want to. To all my projects.
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Postby stormydragon » Wed Dec 19, 2012 7:59 pm

Personally, I think the sex scenes are just about right. Sex just for sex sake tends to be less erotic for me than sex occuring between people I know about and am interested in.
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